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ROV course output versus uptake

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Raptor wrote:

As for spending out thousands of pounds on a course in the hope it will give you the edge , It wont ! if it did why is there thousands of people out there still looking !

BUT as I've said before, if you were confronted with a choice of 2 identical people, experience background etc, one had done a course and one hadn't, which would you choose?

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Lets be very clear about this the only people making money out of this are the training schools and so far I have not see any evidence to support your claim that you got the job because of the course .

I have never made that claim, I do think it helped but definitely not just the course.

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But as James said this debate has been running a very long time all I know as a Superintendent I look at the persons back ground and not that his done a course .

I have nothing to disagree with there, there are also so many people in the game that don't have any relevant experience or know how and bluff their way through, I have had the displeasure of working with some of them on more than one occasion., they shouldn't be let loose at all. The sooner a formal qualification is released, the better.

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Maybe in the years to come it might become a mandatory requirement but at the moment its not .
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Raptor


Agreed.

Oceaneering ROV Tech Advice

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How did you get on with your interview miz?

Seeking a job as a ROV Technician / Pilot

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Well done.

A tip is listen more than you speak, do ANY job that needs doing which includes tidying up and making the tea. The other guys would all have been in that same position when they started and wont see why you should be any different Smile

Also, after 2 years experience, leave and get a job somewhere else, they are great to start off with but apparently very poor payers in the long run.

Hoping for a career move into ROV work , any suggestions :)

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The eng 1 was planned because if you want to work on drillships then i think thats a requirement , i will of course be doin my offshore medical also.

Just cant wait to get away from my council job , six years now, be a fine job if i was 55 but at 34 i need to get back to the real world.

Ill keep you posted on how i get on

Cheers

SJP17

Colourblindness

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not sure if its the same in the ROV industry but on the more modern trucks and buses most of the wires are now the same colour and have 4 digit identifiers stamped on them at intervals spanning the length of the wire, so if you are following a wiring diagram youll have no trouble spotting the wire in the harness that your looking for.

List of Agencys dealing with Rov Personnel !

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Thanks Raptor I never knew there was so many .

Bye for now

Subman

ROV course output versus uptake

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Hi Guys,

It has been a while and during that time I have noticed a few super techs or so they would have us believe by the way they so freely give their opinions about courses and the benefits they provide. I have a some what skeptical view of any training establishment that can cast a perceived view of industry requirements and the benefits that they can miraculously impart on an individual with out a technical background. I know that someone knows someone (we all do - get over it!!!) that is in the industry or got a bunch of job offers from doing a course only. Please take the time to think about, maybe it was just a bit of right time / right place or they knew someone? If any course can give someone the technical ability and piloting skills of a proper pilot tech - ie. 1 year as a trainee, 6 to 12 months as a pilot tech 3, 6 to 12 months as a pilot tech 2 and finally reaching the dizzy heights of pilot tech 1 if you did well and are a team player. Again we all know of some people who progressed a little faster and some guys that have made supervisor and then went back to being a sub-eng as they like techy stuff? I for one am sick that these topics are flogged to death by jokers that embellish the truth about their skills when I am sure that a good batch of construction work would probably reveal that the so called pilot tech 2 skills attained by these fly by night training organizations. These are just my and probably a lot of other people's opinions on this dead horse.

regards,

Canuck1

Move to Australia with ROV company

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Hi all,

I am currently a ROV pilot/tech in the UK sector but would like to emigrate to Australia. Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do they have any contact details for any company offices down under?

Also has anyone tried to do this or done it recently and could give me any advice.

Cheers in advance

Laser metrology

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Dan,

Just an update to this; we are now offering spoolpiece metrology using laser-augmented photo-grammetry.

The best way thus far is to drop hardened laser-engraved metal tags onto the seabed and then use a digital stills camera to photograph from one tag to the other (it's like following a trail of breadcrumbs). When you want to clean up - just stick a magnet in the manip and suck em up.

Anyone familiar with the story of the minotaur and the labyrinth will understand why we are calling this new system THESEUS.

For more info; www.savante.co.uk or ring the office on

44 (0) 1224 224336.

Sav.

ROV course output versus uptake

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I am one of those who decided it was worth attending a 3-week ROV Induction Course.

I have now been very fortunate in that I have been offered a start as a trainee.

In a nutshell - for me looking back - i'd have to say luck was as valuable a friend to me as the course. I have a BEng in mechanical engineering and am familiar with hydraulic, mechanical and electrical systems through education and work. However I was never employed with as a technician or with a directly hands-on role. To me - this was a huge negative on my CV as I was aware that operators value the practical, competent, hands on ability of pilot techs as well as their analytic ability to solve problems.

I am a hands on person but how could I show this? I wasn’t going to strip an engine block during the interview. The course allowed me to better prove this type of competence as opposed to me simply turning up and saying in an interview - "I'm happy to get stuck in and I know what im doing, honest I do."

Naturally, it also showed my direct commitment to the ROV industry. And there's something to be said for simply putting myself in a position where going into the interviews - i could speak with that little extra confidence because I was pre-armed with this course. For me - this was a good help.

However - although the course was valuable for me - looking back I would conclude that luck played an equally valuable part of my application and I would be unlikely to recommend that someone else follow me - unless they had my particular type of background. No course or qualification can take away the fact that there are many hundreds (thousands?) of applicants seeking the same post. So even when you deduct the no-hopers, this means there are still significantly more suitable applicants for any one post - and so if your CV is not top of the pile on that day, when the HR person decides to select people for interview etc. (after already passing one or two of their mates CV's into the fastlane) the chances of selection are slim.

I have a solid basis in hydraulics and electronics and so doing courses in these subjects didnt appeal to me. The impression I have today is that the interviewers are simply looking for the following two things in a trainee:

1. Someone who gets on well with other people (and within the offshore environment) PRIMARY
2. Someone who demonstrates an aptitude for performing practical technical work.

The technical assessments I took and the interviews were all geared towards gauging these two areas. The technical tests were of a very fundamental level - because at the end of the day - as a trainee - they dont expect you to know everything. In fact, the company I am starting with are putting all the trainees through 'basic' hydraulics and electrical courses!

Should you do an ROV course?
In most cases - No. Without the luck (that you can do nothing about) you're better off making calls, making contacts, keeping your spirits up and staying polite but determined. The only way your chances are going to improve, is by sticking in the hunt and allowing father time to give you another throw of the dice.


My large nutshell Wink

T1000

New member hello

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Thanks for the welcome!

And yes definitily. I'll do a blog or diary of what I experience in my first year etc. Smile

ROV survey of a dam

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If anyone currently involved in the inspection of dams, in particular paying attention to progressive measurement of concrete erosion and damage - give me a call as we have a number of laser, photogrammetry, stereoimaging and video mosaic systems that are currently being used to measure the dimensions of cracks and gaps between concrete blocks.

In addition, in particularly murky water we have been finding that our real-time video mosaicking software and camera multiplexing systems are proving to be a real boon in compensating for smaller fields of view that are typically achieved when the camera is used to inspect the walls at closer range to compensate for turbidity.


info@savante.co.uk

Sparrows hydraulics course or ROV Course?

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Thought I'd give a wee update on course choice. I ended up doing a combined HV, Basic Hydraulics and Fibre Optic course over a week at MTCS as they are at least transferable skills had the ROV career not materialized. It also made sense as their course was 1500GBP (inc VAT) which was the same as the sparrows 2 days hydraulic course. I'd recommend the course instead of spending the vast amounts money learning to fly the vehicle as I found it stood me good stead (along with my background experience/education) to getting a start with SS7 in February Smile.

To those looking to get in the industry, really follow the useful link on how to lay out your CV as we were told they had over 800 applicants from which 125 CVs got picked out of for psychometric testing.

New Year, No jobs

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We are just small beans but none of our subsea work kicks off again until mid February; it's been such a rubbish winter for cruddy weather !

Sparrows hydraulics course or ROV Course?

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Good luck in your new venture, hopefully it all works out for you, if not you can always try the ROV training route, I've been there done that and have never been looking for a job.
There are a lot of negative postings on here, from the "older" guys, but take it all with a pinch of salt, as some of them have personal grudges with training establishments............I have worked with many of the older chaps on here that slate the schools, so I know a few wee things about their personal grudges.............

New member hello

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My start is with SS7.

Over the last 4 years ive worked with pneumatic products that are used in a maritime environment and managed to get some time working at sea which I think helped.

I was actually concerned that this was too short a time - it was my longest posting with any company on my CV - and thought they would be concerned I was quick to change focus. I thought if they are investing in people, they want to see commitment to stay the course, and good return on their investment.

Regarding meeting new people and new environments. This was definitely an area they explored as part of the recruitment process. They were keen to know my opinions RE: working with other languages, cultures, types of person, confrontation management etc. I guess this makes sense where you are working with a global company in a confined and isolated environment for extended periods of time!

There were over 800 CV's for 12 spots. So despite your CV ticking the right boxes I wouldn't feel not being selected reflects on your application. That's just odds. (I sent the same CV (-1yr) to them for a previous recruitment campaign and didn't get noticed at all)

I know they will be running more recruitment campaigns, they are bringing on more ships and the demand seems to be increasing. So its a case of continuing to apply and occasionally calling the office and getting your name bounced about.

ROV in Germany - Suggestions?

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Hello Homework
This question is akin to asking someone in the aviation business "What airplane should I buy?" In order to give a useful response one would need to know the intended application, budget for purchasing, required ancillary options, deadline for acquisition, and a myriad of task specific details. The more details you can provide, the better will be the quality of the advice you might expect to receive here.

S. Puma that crashed killing 16 was declared fit day before

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Super Puma that crashed into the North Sea killing 16 men was declared fit for service the day before the tragedy, an inquiry has heard

Link:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535958/Super-Puma-crashed-North-Sea-killing-16-men-declared-fit-service-day-tragedy-inquiry-heard.html#ixzz2pqrEifoL

New member hello

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Thanks for the advice. Hopefully ill get a look in my direction this year, until then ill just keep my CV circling the web Smile.

Global Diving and Salvage

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Salvage is not normally bread and butter work for offshore peeps and therefore you'll not much info on this site about salvage companies. I'd suggest researching them well before committing.
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